BOF on Inter-NREN services
17.9.2009 Copenhagen

Hans Wallberg, Sunet
Jörgen Qvist, Nordunet
Dan Monster, Forskningsnettet
Ingrid Melve, Uninett
Magnus Stromdal, Uninett
Sami Andberg,
Harri Kuusisto,
Tiina Leiponen,
Jari Miettinen,
Juha Oinonen, CSC / Funet
Martin Beck, Uni-C (15:30-)

1. Introduction

  • participants introduced themselves
  • Tiina Leiponen explained the background for the survey and BoF

2. Survey results and discussion

  • The survey results were discussed one by one
  • Following includes a short summary of the disctussion

Question no 1. Lightpath;

  • question was about dedicated circuits in Nordic DWDM networks
  • description; anything else than IP
  • in Nordic fairly easy ~V problems start when going out
  • dedicated circuits
  • may pop up any time
  • published on Danish nren site
  • 1G connection within Nordunet possible within days
    o no common procedures or agreenments yet
    o no guidelines for users or
  • might be convenient if Nodrunet
    o some agreement on policies
  • important to publish some more information about this
    o there is a need for Nordunet-level service description
  • service for port rate services (1G, 10G) is easy to arrange
    o problems come when starting to do other speeds or exotic services
    o Nordunet promised that some information about the services could be disseminated within days
  • lightpaths problematic to monitor ~V if not used for a while, hard to know when problems started
    o CPE needed to monitor end-to-end services
    o needs to be discussed in more detail within a special group
  • Jacko Koster from Uninett might have a use case about this
    o LHC another?

Question no 2. IPTV content production

  • the question terminology was not clear; contect production vs. content distribution
  • in Sweden ~V testing IPTV , multicast capable mostly
  • from technical point of view there are no problems
  • need for a Nordunet forum on these issues
  • full scale test going on in Uninett
  • some kind of forum might be needed
    o best practices for multicast; routers, firewalls, etc.

Question no 3. Videoconference

  • the question was about offering video conference services
  • discussion about differences of video conferencing and web conferencing
  • problems in connectivity between some institutions (firewalls etc).
  • ~Qjoint MCU could make sense, no need for multiple ones~R
  • Uni-C is installing two services, one for research and other for (hospital-network?) ?
  • ~Qstart small, scale up~R ~VIngrid
  • ~Qif it has a price, it is valued higher~R
  • small survey about the video and web-conferencing systems and procedures in place should be done
    o some questions about
    -
    Question no 4. was bypassed

Question no 5. ~Qyoutube-style services~R

  • the question was about setting up a video sharing service, similar in ways to YouTube, where users could utilize federated identities to upload and access
    video material
  • edumedia.dk up and running

iPass service available from Uni-cC

  • unified billing for different wlan-networks

3. Next steps
The following actions are proposed. The actions are listed according to the active partner.

  • CTO-forum (Nordunet/Fischer);
    o need for a new forum / working group;
    § comparison of service portfolios
    §inter-NREN services working group
    o processes service description about lightpaths provided by Nordunet
    o If the legal and financial issues are solved, sharing services would become much easier
    o other services to be discussed (not discussed here due to the lack of time)
    § ie. server certificates
  • CSC (Funet/Miettinen);
    o sends out the survey results and BoF minutes
    o summons an inter-nren working group ~Vkickoff in January 2010
    § makes the meeting preparations
  • Nordunet (Qvist);
    o deliveres service description about lightpaths
    o
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