Inter-NREN meeting in Trondheim 25th September 2013 (DRAFT)

Minutes

1. Welcome

Participants:

  • Martin Bech (MB), DeiC
  • Jorgen Qvist (JQ), NORDUnet (VC) (joined after lunch, 13:00)
  • Harri Kuusisto (HK), CSC/Funet (VC) (left 14:05)
  • Jari Miettinen (JM), CSC/Funet (chair/sec)
  • Marius Olafsson (MO), RHNet (excused)
  • Magnus Strømdal (MS), UNINETT
  • Vidar Faltinsen (VF), UNINETT
  • Per Nihlén (PN), SUNET
  • Roger Skjettlein (RS), UNINETT (left 11:15, returned for item 6)
  • Jannike Normann (JN), UNINETT (present during item 6)

Site: UNINETT Office, Abels gate 5 – Teknobyen, NO-7465 Trondheim

The meeting started at 10:15 CET

1.1 Agenda bashing

  • there was a short round of introductions
  • the agenda was reviewed and tuned
  • time restrictions
    • HK has to go by 14:00
    • RS gives the UNINETT HA presentation first (item 8.2)
  • the items were in the following order after that: item 3, 8.3, 6, 7, 5 and 4. Before closing the integrity of the eduroam statement paper was introduced and the corresponding action point (Miettinen) was closed.
2. Last meeting

2.1 Minutes from last meeting

  • the previous minutes were not revised

2.2 TODO-list

  • the normal review of the action points will be handled in the mailing list (off-line)
3. Short update for the last 3 months (approximately 3 main issues)

3.1 Funet

  • HK gave an update
  • CSC has had an organsational change starting September 1st. Mr. Juha Oinonen stepped down from the position as a development manager for the Funet network. Mr. Teemu Kiviniemi is continuing as the new development manager. HK explained how the responsibilities go in the new organisation.
  • The Box service introduction is in the contracting phase with the vendor. However, the piloting has started with some universities and using limited features. The piloting will end by the end of October and its results will be used in the further decision-making.
  • There's some challenges in getting non-federated organisations to the Adobe Connect (Funet Tiimi) service. An Elastic SSO based IdP service is being piloted for providing the missing AAI component.
  • CSC is investigating the Nordic IaaS initiatives
  • the CSC USENET news service will become chargeable beginning January 2014
  • budgeting for the 2014 is going on

3.2 Sunet

  • there has been organisational changes: Per Nihlen, Leif Johansson and Valter Nordh are working as full time as SUNET new. BJ is working as the chief operations now.
  • traditional file backup and virtualized hosting, lecture capture, project tools, the GN3plus work for PaaS and MCU service are topical items at the moment. The work is likely to last until March 2014. The file backup and virtualized hosting is proposed to be a joint Nordic tender.
  • the reasoning behind the need for a joint file backup service was discussed

3.3 DeiC

  • MB summarized the establishment of DeiC and the organisational structure. The organisational change was finalized by the end of 2012.
  • DeiC is considering a network upgrade, which would improve the current backbone. The amount of PoPs is expected to remain the same at the moment.
  • there was discussion about fiber acquisitions
  • MB presented the DeiC fiber optical backbone structure. Multiple different technologies are used for lighting the fibers.
  • MB described the ServiceInfo service. It covers e.g. Adobe Connect, iPass and the network service. ServiceInfo has a non-federated user access for independent functionality.
  • DeiC has a project for investigating the end-to-end performance of the network. NAV is used in the tests. Various different network problems and the difficulties in detecting them were discussed.
  • DeiC is participating the development of the GN3plus dynamic light path service task
  • MB is a member of the Strategy and Innovation committee in GN3plus
  • Thor data center was displayed shortly
  • DeiC has three processes for national strategies: HPC, data management and E-Science comptentence center

3.4 RHNET

  • RHNET provided information by e-mail
  • the FTP service has been closed

3.5 UNINETT

  • UNINETT has the 20-year anniversary year
  • UNINETT will have an organisational change in the coming months
  • new fibre cable to from Longyearbyen to New Ålesund (Spitsbergen) is on track. It will be completed next autumn (2014). The fiber will be 270km long and it will support the establishment of a new VLBI station.
  • the IP backbone is being gradually updated from 1G to 10G
  • in-house IaaS and PaaS solution is being developed
  • UNINETT is working on getting Box in production
  • AV procurement is going on at the moment. The call for tender is in the evaluation phase.
  • IPTV has entered production in August 2013
  • eduroam pilot has started on 19 airports. There has been some 6000 unique users in July 2013.
  • UNINETT has built large SIP infrastructure, which is getting more popular and more users.
  • alternatives to Splunk are being researched
  • NAV tool: the web interface and graphics engine will be further developed. The monitoring needs were discussed.

3.6 NORDUnet

  • there was no-one present
4. Service Matrix
  • the update of the Service Matrix was tabled
  • the TERENA TF-LCPM paper on NREN service categories (Koen Schelkens et al) was discussed
  • the paper is from 2006 and it needs an update. However, the work group hoped that the document main structure and categories would stay more or less the same.
  • new action point: JM to contact Koen Schelkens for investigating co-operation possibilities
  • new action point: JM to draft a new version of the NREN service portfolios paper
5. Next meeting
  • Stockholm Wed January 22nd 2014
6. Shared procurements
  • new NORDUnet IaaS initiatives were introduced to the participants
7. Shared services development fund
  • JQ gave an update on the recent developments
  • each NREN will need to nominate a representative to the governance board
  • new action point: JQ to contact the NRENs for appointing the governance board
8. AOB

8.1. Co-operation and outreach

  • it was noted that the Eunis congress will be in Umeå June 11-13
    • the group didn't see an immediate need to attend the event

8.2 UNINETT HA services update

  • RS gave the presentation on the UNINETT Nova activities
  • UNINETT has been developing a comprehensive IaaS and PaaS platform. It includes a portal for provisioning
  • new action point: PN will pursue and investigate the further possibilities
  • RS left the meeting 11:15

8.3 Mobile connectivity

  • HK initiated the discussion. There has been some novel service ideas, which could provide broader coverage.
  • the item will be revisited in the next meeting
  • HK left the meeting 14:05
9. Closing
  • Meeting ended at 16:18 CET.
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