Inter-NREN meeting in Copenhagen 17th April 2013 (DRAFT)

Minutes

1. Welcome

Participants:

Martin Bech (MB), DeiC
Jorgen Qvist (JQ), NORDUnet
Harri Kuusisto (HK), CSC/Funet (VC)
Jari Miettinen (JM), CSC/Funet (chair/sc)
Marius Olafsson (MO), RHNet (excused)
Magnus Strømdal (MS), UNINETT (excused)
Vidar Faltinsen (VF), UNINETT (excused)
Yury Izhvanov (YI), RUNNET/e-Arena (excused)

Site: NORDUnet Office, Kastruplundgade 22, 2770 Kastrup, Copenhagen

The meeting started at 10:01 CET

1.1 Agenda bashing

  • the agenda was reviewed and some final tuning was done
  • lunch break will be around 12:00
  • HK has to leave early (by the agenda item number 4 or 5)
  • the agenda was followed in the order: item 2.1, 3, 2.2, 6.3, 4, 5, 6.4 and item 6.6.
2. Last meeting

2.1 Minutes from last meeting

  • minutes were accepted

2.2 TODO-list

  • pending
    • Framework for joint procurements/Qvist: JQ gave a presentation. The proposed framework was discussed and further development was identified (see 6.4). Rescheduled to June 2013
    • DeiC service matrix update/Bech. Rescheduled to Aug 2013.
    • Uninett HA material/Strømdal. MS not present. Rescheduled to Aug 2013.
    • Description of the shared services development fund/Qvist. See 6.3. Rescheduled to Aug 2013.
    • UNINETT HA/Strømdal. MS not present. Rescheduled to Sep 2013.
    • Joint meeting with inter-NREN and Nordic CERT forum/Bech. Work is in progress. DeiC CERT team is arranging the event in Aug or Sep 2013. Rescheduled to Sep 2013.
  • DONE
    • List of caching services/Qvist. Google Cache is the only one at the moment, ToR node is also operational. DONE
    • TF-LCPM service categorization/Qvist. Update need request sent to a TERENA. Added "Cloud services" a to an existing group "Network computing resources". DONE
    • More information on Serviceinfo/Bech. MB demonstrated the service in the current meeting. DONE
    • Forskningsnettet --> Deic/Miettinen. JM had updated the workgroup web pages. DONE
3. Short update for the last 3 months (approximately 3 main issues)

3.1 Funet

  • CSC is investigating the Box service. The project in the planning phase and the assignment is being written. CSC has had initial discussion with the Box. The service is expected to be in use by September.
  • Some new organisations have joined eduroam. A trial of lightweight access points (hotspots) is going on. The new eduroam hotspots will be installed in public locations.
  • CSC has investigated the DjangoRA service and installed a pilot setup. It is working reasonably well. The service will be introduced during the spring 2013.
  • Funet has used Adobe Connect for a while now. The access for non-federated (non-Haka) organisations has been requested. The first deployment is being built.
  • "Enlighten your research" contest has been announced to the Nordic researchers. A call for project proposal has been made. The price is a dedicated light path for the winner research group.

3.2 Sunet

  • Sunet's CEO Marie Häll started her work on February 1st. There will be some organisational and represational changes coming.
  • Box service covers 21 organisations at the moment. The service is getting a very high uptake.
  • The mail filter service is growing steadily. The service has a very long introduction time because of existing agreements, among other things.
  • SUNET will likely deploy the NORDUnet h. 323 videoconferencing service. The setup will be different compared to the current setups with the other Nordic NRENs. It's likely that the universities have their own slices in the MCU so, that
    the universities can have their own administrators
  • UNINETT multimedia services on lecture capturing etc. are being piloted
  • Live Streaming service is in a general availability for SUNET customers. It has attracted some interested among those who like to have a really easy way to stream events and establish their own microsite (WWW). The service is being integrated to SWAMID.
  • Procurement for server and virtual server backups is being planned.
  • EduID project is being established. The project is going on as an initiative inside SWAMID. The goal is to establish a generic student ID assignment service for the Swedish university sector and interlink it to the current student administration systems.

3.3 DeiC

  • the DeiC organisational changes are quite completed. DeiC is also working on national services for cloud and HPC in addition the traditional NREN services.
  • there's high university interest on the cloud services. The Box service has raised high interest. A prototype of a cloud storage service is being built.
  • National strategy is being written. The strategy would cover all the Danish universities and include data services.
  • HPC strategy is being worked on. There's governmental financial funding for establishing the service. The different location/topology models are being discussed. The possible facilities are being investigated.
  • MB gave a demonstration about the Serviceinfo (https://www.serviceinfo.dk/). The service has both Danish and English GUI. The service enables the user to get mail about the distruptions in the DeiC services. SMS notifications will be supported later. The ServiceInfo doesn't use federated IDs because the federation service itself may be down. Instead, the users are expected to self-register. The system administrators can login and publish information about the coming service breaks.
  • there was discussion about linking Serviceinfo to Twitter and automated input from service processes
  • DeiC has had some initial discussions with providers about providing additional wireless eduroam access in Denmark. There's not that much commercial supply. The city wireless networks are also developing quite rapidly at the moment.
  • there was discussion about how to select good places for eduroam hotspots
  • some universities have reported that eduroam service may not be completely compliant at the moment. This is due to legacy configuration in some systems. There's also activity for investigating the quality of the eduroam service in the universities.
  • Personal certificates have been requested. There was discussion about providing personal certificates in the Nordic countries present.
  • There's a survey going on related to the Connect Europe facility initiative.
  • new action point: the integrity of the eduroam should be fixed. We support the the initiatives to get the service more consistent by harmonizing the technical requirements. JM to write the statement and send it to the list.

3.4 RHNET

  • nobody present

3.5 UNINETT

  • nobody present

3.6 NORDUnet

  • JQ gave an update about the situation with Box. The procurement is in the phase where the frame agreement is being drawn. It's expected that the frame agreement is in place by the end of the current month (April). NORDUnet has intitiated a kick-off meeting about deploying the service. As a result, a small Nordic working group has been established.
    Box has nominated an account, Valerie Focke, to act as a liaison towards the Nordic countries. There is also a contact for the technical matters.

3.7 RUNNET

  • nobody present

Lunch break. 11:50. HK left the meeting. The meeting continued 12:45.

4. Service Matrix

4.1 Status for the Service Matrix

  • recent updates were reviewed. NORDUnet and SUNET information has been updated quite recently.
  • MB had an issue with the Wiki access, which was fixed on spot

4.2. Update of the shared services

  • The information has been updated lately. The content was reviewed together and it was regarded to be up-to-date at the moment.
5. Next meeting
  • Trondheim 23.-27.9.2013 suited everybody. Alternatively some later time is possible.
  • an initial version of the program was drafted on the white board
  • new action point: JM to agree the meeting details with the UNINETT
  • new action point: JM to compile a Doodle for agreeing the date for the next meeting
6. AOB

6.1. Co-operation and outreach

  • The following events are approaching:
    • Nordic e-Infrastructure Conference 13.-16.5 2013
    • NORDUnet Technical Workshop 17.-18.9.2013

6.2 Joint HA service development

  • the item was tabled until the next meeting

6.3 Shared services development fund

  • JQ had prepared a draft document and he introduced it shortly
  • The draft was discussed in detail. It was generally thought to be a good one.
  • addition to the action point: JQ to send the final draft to the list for the last comments
  • addition to the action point: JQ to have the proposal included as a decision item to the next NORDUnet board meeting

6.4 Shared procurements

  • JQ gave on update of the procurement situation
  • the applications and limitations of a possible IaaS service were discussed
  • new action point: JQ to send some material about the structure of the IaaS tender to the list for comments
  • NORDUnet is working on the optical infrastructure tender at the moment
  • new action point: JQ to send the current optical infrastructure tender project plan to the list
  • the discussion will continue in the next meeting

6.5 eduroam policy 2.0 signing process

  • the state of the process was noted during the agenda bashing

6.6 GN3+ Open call for additional beneficiaries

  • the call is open
  • deadline is by May 29th
7. Closing
  • Meeting ended at 15:20 CET.
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