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Participants

Stefan Liström - SL (NORDUnet)
Fresia Pérez - FP (NORDUnet/SUNET)
Jan Ferre - JF (Forskningsnettet) - via VC
Vegard Vesterheim - VV (UNINETT)
Marius Olafsson - MO (RHnet)
Jani Myyry - JM (Funet)
Jörgen Qvist - JQ (NORDUnet) - present during Inter NREN forum update

Draft agenda

  • Introductions and setting the agenda
  • NREN Operational updates
  • NREN development update
    • Trouble ticket information exchange
  • Funet "CPE-router" service (non-virtualized)
  • TF-NOC update
  • GN3 wavelength and BoD services
  • Service forum update
  • Operational forum review
  • AOB and next meeting

Minutes of meeting

Introductions and setting the agenda

The agenda was accepted

NREN Operational updates

  • UNINETT - VV
    • UNINETT is testing the Camtasia relayserver for recording presentations
    • Developing a firewall builder which is generating access lists (included in the toolbox server for campuses) both ipv4 and ipv6, it is opensource and compatible with Cisco and UNIX
  • A NAV reference group has been founded founded, it has been suggested to create a NORDUnet forum for NAV, new version will be available in September
  • The UNINETT IRU with Ventelo has been extended
  • There are plans for a sea-cable from Spitsbergen (Ny-Ålesund)
  • UNINETT is deploying 10G to several customers using MX80s
  • The core network have been upgraded, three new ASR9010 routers have been installed in Oslo
  • Funet - JM
    • Upgraded uplink to NORDUnet to two 10G links
    • Metro ring network in Helsinki area soon (probably during November) in production
      The Metro network consist of six routers of which two are connected to NORDUnet
    • Funet is planning on setting up a new customer portal (software still in evaluation), the goal is to have it in production in December
    • An internal ipv6 taskforce in CSC has been created to make sure that services are IPv6 compatible
      IPv6 planning is based on SURFNET document for internal service IP allocation
    • Funet is also hosting IPv6 training for customers to increase the deployment rate
    • There is an ongoing evaluation of DNSSEC
    • Funet is investigating dynamic services, the plan is to setup a MPLS testbed running OSCARS version 0.6
  • FSKnet - JF
    • New staff have been hired to primarily work with the DWDM network
      This has lead to faster provisioning of services in the network to customers
    • FSKnet is currently investigating how to best monitor layer 2 connections to customers
      JM commented that Funet is using the UNINETT system Stager to monitor DWDM circuits. Information is sent from the DWDM NMS to a server (UNIX) and then forwarded to Stager which process the information.
    • Been starting to use the NORDUnet MCU for VC conferencing services for customers. There was an initial issue between old and new equipment but it is getting better now
  • SUNET - FP
    • Finalized the replacement of Ciena 4350 to Junpier MX80s, the NOC has had about 50% less incidents since the change
    • The SUNET core site has been completely separated (red/green network), the core site is now split up in two sites
    • SUNET has had to buy more licenses to Adobe connect due to the increased number of users (maximum number of concurrent users have about around 500 so far)
    • The mailfilter service is now in production and a couple of universities have started using it
      There was a discussion about mailfiltering services in the different countries. A central service is used in UNINETT (greylisting system which is in-house developed) and many customers are using it; A central Blacklisting service is used in Funet; customers run their own in RHnet and there is an option for FSKnet customers to use a centralized solution.
  • NORDUnet
    • Adobe connect has been setup for UNINETT and Funet is considering to start using the service too.
    • There was a power outage at one of the Stockholm sites on the 11th of October and unfortunately there was also a problem with the UPS. Once the generator had started the network worked as expected however some services had further problems. Measure have been taken to avoid similar issues in the future.
    • New goals have been setup for the NORDUnet NOC and there will soon be a customer survey sent out to NRENs
      Marius - problem with US circuits. Hard to get respons from the providers, we are getting replies but hopefully useful information soon. Any penalty for the greenconnect circuit?
      FP - check if we are paying for it
    • NORDUnet is starting to prepare the new network tender.
    • During a discussion about peering the question came up why NORDUnet is not peering in Finland. This is because of the current rules to connect to the Finish IX. However JM thought the rules have been changed and will investigate if that was correct.
      New AP on JM -
  • RHnet
    secondary schools adult education centers funded by ministary of education (26000 students, 60 institutes) applied to use RHnet network
    • 10G build out is finalized in Reykjavik, it is harder to extend the 10G infrastructure outside Reykjavik due to the quality of the fibers
    • A new Nordic HPC initiative is being built on Iceland, which will be connected to RHnet.
    • Preparations have started for the Terena conference next year.
    • RHnet have decided to use NAV (the UNINETT software) and are currently waiting for hardware to be able to install it.

NREN development update

  • Networking inventory
    The Network inventory is now used in production and NORDUnet have started to move information into the system.
    AP SL - arrange a demo/workshop for developers to get an overview of how the Network inventory work
  • Trouble ticket information exchange
    NORDUnet is investigating the possibility to disseminate and exchange trouble ticket information in a formal way using activity streams.
    VV commented on their current integrations between monitoring, ticket and inventory system. In UNINETT they can create a trouble ticket from an alarm in Hobbit which is then also registered in the inventory system. In other words the number of issues concerning e.g. equipment can be viewed easily in the inventory system.
    JF - In FSKnet they use OTRS as ticket system and are currently looking into developing a tool that disseminate information to the FSKnet customers in a more selecting way, i.e. not only emails.

Funet "CPE-router" service (non-virtualized)

JM presented their CPE-router service that they now offer to their customers.

Inter-NREN update

JQ presented the work and updates from the Inter-NREN forum.

  • NORDUnet MCU service
    FSKnet is now using the NORDUnet MCU service and Funet is evaluating the same service
  • Adobe connect service
    SUNET and UNINETT is using the service and Funet is going to test the service
  • Filesender
    UNINETT developed filesender and now there is an interest among all NRENs to use it, there are discussions how it could be integrated into Kalmar and hosted for the NRENs
  • Mailfilter/spamfilter
    SUNET is using Canit domain pro and it is currently under discussion if other NRENs would be interested in using the same setup for their customers.
  • Gateway services
    There are discussion in the forum how to best connect the Nordic NRENs to the Akamai service.
  • ToR
    How will we develop new services? how can we develop them together and tendering together
    Support issues for services?
    peering?

TF-NOC update

  • Nagios/monitoring
  • Ticket system integration
  • Script library
  • Survey

GN3 wavelength and BoD services

  • Wavelength
    • I-share
  • BoD
    tail-f
    • Presentation

Operational forum review

what is good, what is not so good
what do we want more of, what do we want less of
VV - agree on some actual work being done (common interests)
important and useful to exchange experiences
unnessecary to reinvent wheels all the time
Marius - What is happening in GEANT and Europe
what are the plans for network buildout in NORDUnet
one year might be to seldom
AP - Fresia to check code for RT ticket integration
AP - all think about Unsolved problems, brainstorming for common areas of interest
AP - Jani check peering in Finland
Knowledge base, hard to get dissemination back to the NOC

AOB and next meeting

Next meeting RHnet on iceland

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