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Participants

Name

Organisation

Comment

Stefan Liström

NORDUnet

 

Jani Sirpoma

Funet


Teemu Kiviniemi

Funet

 

Vegard Vesterheim

UNINETT

 

Marius Olafsson

RHnet

 

Jonny Lundin

 NORDUnet

 

Agenda

  • Introductions and setting the agenda
  • NREN Operational updates
    • NORDUnet - JL
    • SUNET - JL
    • UNINETT - VV
    • FSKnet - JF
    • RHnet - MO
    • Funet - TK
  • NREN development update
  • TF-NOC update - SL
  • Break for Lunch
  • NORDUnet updates
  • Enterprise Architecture discussion
  • Time to discuss other service operation
  • AOB and next meeting

Minutes of meeting

NORDUnet operational forum 121115

  • Introductions and setting the agenda
    Following additions to the agenda was made
    Jörgen will give an update from the service forum
    Pettai will talk about DNS and reflection attacks
  • NREN Operational updates
    • NORDUnet - JQ
      • Network upgrades
        Preparations have been made for 100G in core
        There are plans to extending the fiber footprint
        The plan is to do a tender for optical equipment as a framework via Dante
        Other NRENs can indicate an interest to participate in the framework
        Upgrades from MX80 to MX480 in Amsterdam and London are done
        Surfnet had some problem that made us wait with our upgrades to T4000
        We know what the problem was now and it should not affect us, but we are waiting on SURFnet to successfully upgrade their network before upgrading completely to T4000
        Stockholm and Copenhagen will be upgraded to T4000
        Telia changing peering policy, the effects of this is that we move the peering from SUNET to NORDUnet.
        MX480 installed in Luleå will make it possible for NORDUnet to peer with Telia in Luleå and also connect CBF with Funet. UNINETT CFB reconnected to Luleå too. There are redundant paths from Luleå (within SUNET) back to Stockholm.
        mx480s deployed in Oslo and Helsinki to allow redundant MPLS connections
        First 100G on "pure" dark fiber will be setup between the two sites in Stockholm as a test after the T4000 upgrade.
      • Fibercut in Denmark
        Big impact on the IP services we provide.
        Connections to Amsterdam and London were affected
        Manual traffic engineering, and rerouting of US traffic using transit instead helped mitigate the situation. Transit providers were however also affected with congestion in their networks
        A meeting with fiber provider to figure out why the routes were not as redundant as expected will be done and a proposal for new setup within 8 weeks that will give us more redundancy.
      • New NOC manager
        Jonny Lundin has been hired as a new NOC manager for NORDUnet.
    • SUNET - JL
      SUNET DCN network unstable, looking at redesigning the DCN network
      Testing MPLS connections instead of pure IP
      eduroam extension outside campuses almost done, now eduroam is available at Swedish airports, major railway stations and many city hotspots in university cities.
      More info on meta.eduroam.se
      The setup is done using an IP tunnel to controller, back to Radius and DHCP (within SUNET) and onwards to the Internet
      New project model developed for SUNET services
  • http://www.sunet.se/Om-sunet/Strategiskt-arbete.html
    The SUNET sync service (Box) is now in production.
    Survey service tender is completed and the installation of the service has started.
    • UNINETT - VV
      Olaf Schjelderup is leaving for position as technology director with
      Norsk Helsenett. Vidar Faltinsen taking over Olafs position from dec. 1st.

The Norwegian Health Network (Norsk Helsenett) is owned by the
Ministry of health and care services. Approximately 100 employees and
our headquarters are located in Trondheim, with branch offices in both
Oslo and Tromsø.

  1. System Services:
    1. SIP
      UNINETT SIP telephony infrastructure rollout continuing: 5 new
      institutions, 18.000 numbers ported since june, UiO the biggest with
      14.500 users. 37% of total customers numbers now on SIP.
    1. NAV
      Employed new NAV-developer John Magne Bredal working
      together with Morten Brekkevold. Presenting NAV at workshop at The
      Academic and Research Network of Slovenia (ARNES) late november.
    1. RIPE news
      The policy for handling of legacy internet resources
      is about to be posted in its second and more polished version.
    1. Monitoring for hosts/system services
      Evaluating replacement systems for our host/service monitoring system (hobbit).
      Looking at icinga(nagios) and zabbix.
    1. Configuration management for host/system services
      Evaluating replacement systems for cfengine2, looking at puppet.
  1. Network
  • NyÅlesund cable project: still some tender work (round 2 with
    suppliers), new survey needed to "sysselmannen". UNINETT seeking
    goverment support for financing of 2 cables. Olaf is heavily involved
    and will continue running this project in agreement with his new
    employer.
  • continuing rollout of 10 gig to customers and in core
  • Running 100Gig in production, trondheim-oslo
  • Work started on new fibre-ring (CWDM) in Trondheim (Frode)
  • Collection of IPv6 trafic stats implemented, from Juniper og
    ASR9k-routers
  • Finished renumbering and securing the core with ipv4 and ipv6 filters.
    Work that started when Kaisa visited from FUNET (Rune S)
    • FSKnet - JF
      Not present
    • RHnet - MO
      Secondary schools have been connected to RHnet, which gives a lot more customers and connected institutions.
    • Funet - TK
  • CBF to Luleå completed, BGP sessions setup yesterday.
    Not using the connections yet, internal routing changes needs to be done before the third connection is put in use
  • 100Gb testing between Espo <-> Olu and in Helsinki metro network
  • CPE routing service is getting more popular
  • Internal documentation tools being updated
    NORDUnet NI considered, but the evaluation showed to much adaptation needed.
    Building a database with datamodelling for services and datacomponents (network inventory).
    Goal to have it operational spring next year.
    It will also have links to other systems CSC is using.

AP teemu, send Stefan their datamodel

  • Service forum update
    Lots of talk on procurement, specially services that we do not produce ourselves
    NORDUnet going to rerun the mobile and desktop synchronization tender on behalf on UNINETT, Deic and possibly Funet
    Things discussed were how do we put a framework in place for running these procurements, lots of legal aspects and how do we create a generic model that works for all Nordic countries, how do we handle software development for services (e.g. connecting the federations)?

Roundtable on the service outlook for respective NRENs
RHnet - only network
UNIENTT - more services are being developed, offered and used by customers
Vegard think it would be useful with more coordination or discussion between the respective NRENs about the service operations
Funet - also seeing more services (other than network) being relevant
E.g. Filesender service in production and use

  • NREN development update
    Splunk - there is a model for doing it. Fairly simple but very expensive
    approximately 50% gain when doing it together
    NORDUnet is putting NCS in production to automate filter (AS-path and prefix) updates on routers
    Funet use scripts for AS-path and to mass configure core routers
  • TF-NOC update - SL
    Last meeting in Ireland in June
    Developers from Icinga and Cacti presented
    Teemu presented how Nagios at Funet were used
    Next meeting 12-13 December in Poland
    Topics are project NOCs, ticket systems

Jonny asked about which ticket systems are used in the respective NRENs
RT in UNINETT, Funet and RHnet. Redmine also used in UNINETT

  • NORDUnet updates
    • Pettai
      There have been some DNS and reflection attack recently
      Reflection attacks are "powerful" but relatively few. It is possible to amplify the traffic by easy means of using a reflection attack.
      Pettai will start patching the DNS (authorative name servers) servers in SUNET and NORDUnet to limit the possible amplification achieved with reflection attacks. Pettai recommended the other NRENs to do the same.
  • Enterprise Architecture discussion - VV
    UNINETT has recently started looking into "Enterprise
    Architecture", partly based on ideas from TOGAF. One aspect of this is
    the concepts of "service lifecycles", ie the processes for establishing,
    maintaining, and decommissioning services, and the different roles
    involved in the different phases. Related to this again are the
    procedures for service operations, where of course the UNINETT NOC
    plays a central part. UNINETT has started using BPMN (Business Process
    Modelling Notation) for describing processes, and Håvard Kusslid and Vegard have
    been responsible for drawing processes related to Operations. They have
    tried to reuse some concepts from ITIL in their work. This work is
    ongoing, but they are curious about whether other Nordic NRENs have done
    any similar work.

Stefan - SUNET have looked at simliar things but to a very small extent
Teemu - Finish universities build their own enterprice architecture

AP Vegard - send example processes and datamodel

  • Time to discuss other service operation
    VV - Would be interesting to discuss the different datamodels (over email or at next meeting)
  • AOB and next meeting
    F2F meeting in Copenhagen, late March or early April

AP Stefan - setup doodle for next meeting

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